Beyond the Beef Cant Talk to Mortimer After Speech

" A cannibalism trouble? Actually? I'chiliad and then glad y'all weren't eaten! " — Yes Human being

Beyond the Beef is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas.

Contents

• 1 Synopsis
• two Quick walkthrough
• 3 Detailed walkthrough
  • iii.ane Working with Mortimer
    • 3.1.1 Return Ted to his male parent and find a substitute for the feast
      • 3.i.ane.1 Quest stages
    • 3.1.2 Kill Ted, and frame his father for the murder
      • iii.ane.2.one Quest stages
  • 3.ii Following the Investigator
    • 3.ii.1 Quest stages
  • iii.3 The Bloodthirsty Courier
• 4 Notes
• 5 Behind the scenes
• 6 Bugs
• 7 Gallery
• eight References

Synopsis

Well known brahmin rancher Heck Gunderson asks the Courier to track downward his son Ted, who has disappeared in the Ultra-Luxe Casino Hotel. Ted was kidnapped by agents of Mortimer of the White Glove Gild, in an attempt to render the White Glove Society to cannibalism.

Warning: This quest is tied to Pheeble Volition. If choosing the vengeful way to impale Heck Gunderson and/or his son, depending on your choices, it is possible to fail one of the 2 quests.

Quick walkthrough

Side Quest: Across the Beefiness

Go to the Ultra-Luxe casino and speak with Heck Gunderson.

Speak with Marjorie and then Mortimer, the managers of the Ultra-Luxe.

Sort out everyone's issues past either:

Assistance return Heck Gunderson's son to him alive, curing the White Glove Order cannibalism in the process.

Help return Heck Gunderson'due south son to him alive and help Mortimer render the White Glove Society to cannibalism by killing one of your man companions or a man named Carlyle St. Clair 3.

Impale and cook Heck Gunderson's son, arraign his father for the murder, and help the White Glove Society return to cannibalism.

Kill every White Glove member you see on the manner to Ted and pb him out alive.

Reward: 100 or 500 XP, 250 or 500 caps and the Strip fame or White Glove Order fame.

Detailed walkthrough

In the Ultra-Luxe casino, the Courier finds Heck Gunderson, a wealthy brahmin baron, sitting at the bar and upset virtually his missing son. After questioning the purpose of his visit, i can offering help in finding his son, Ted Gunderson. Then get talk with Marjorie, 1 of the managers of the Ultra-Luxe Casino & Hotel, located at the Gourmand eating house and acquire that a bride went missing in the hotel, which is damaging their reputation. At some signal in the conversation she volition inform you that the White Glove Lodge were cannibals, only this do is at present forbidden. You lot have the selection to tell her that you are a carnivorous too, as a lie (unless you have the Cannibal perk), which does not impress her and will lead to White Glove Guild infamy.

After you lot inform her that you are looking for another man, much to her disbelief, she will tell you to observe the other manager, Mortimer. When talking to Mortimer you accept several options.

• You can lie, with a Oral communication of 62, or use the Cannibal perk, to tell him that yous are a cannibal also (no infamy gained), he will be euphoric and explain his plan to render the White Glove Society to cannibalism, past killing or arranging a substitute for Ted Gunderson.
• You tin can just enquire him directly if you have evil Karma and non-neutral Strip reputation.
• You lot can follow Marjorie's communication and ask him about an investigator searching for clues about a missing bride in the hotel.

Working with Mortimer

Mortimer is very displeased that the Society is denying their basic impulses and wishes the render of the old practices. For this, he will adjust a banquet in which members will be served meals prepared with homo flesh. For this purpose he arranged a kidnapping, only the victim was able to escape. Having to find a substitute at the last minute, those loyal to him kidnapped Ted Gunderson, son of Heck Gunderson, a very powerful brahmin baron.

Mortimer wants to become rid of Ted in a way that doesn't go out any suspicion of the Ultra-Luxe; or, if it's not possible, kill Ted and apply him equally a meal, framing his father for the death. If you want to spare Ted's life you have to provide a substitute for the feast, which can be one of your homo companions if you give this proffer to him or the original victim that was able to escape, Carlyle St. Clair Three. Note, that you can't use imitation strange pie for this task. He then will provide keys for the Ultra-Luxe freezer, Gourmand kitchen and Ultra-Luxe Penthouse, besides as a cattle prod.

Render Ted to his father and find a substitute for the banquet

• If you want to render Ted alive to his male parent, go to the Gourmand restaurant and utilize the elevator to go to the basement.
• A White Glove Society guard will ask what you are doing there. Inform him that Mortimer wishes to get rid of the child without arousing suspicion if he cooperates, with a 55 Spoken language bank check.
• Open the freezer and talk to Ted. Y'all have to prevarication about the people who did this to him and pass a 38 Voice communication check, indicating that perchance information technology was some competitors trying to screw his father's negotiation well-nigh brahmin with the "White Pants Social club" (in Ted'due south ain words).
• Leave with him through the Gourmand eating place kitchen. If you attempt to use the members-simply door everyone in the basement will plough hostile (even if you don't open the door).
• Guide Ted to his father, who volition be furious and demand to know who did this to Ted. Lie that you lot don't know and receive 500 caps from him, as well every bit some White Glove Club fame.

The next stride is to find a substitute for the banquet.

You lot may either:

Sacrifice one of your human companions by going to the kitchen and locking them in the freezer. This volition cease the quest. Note: you will lose anything they are carrying.

or:

Travel to Carlyle St. Clair's firm and convince Carlyle to go to the Ultra-Luxe, or knock him unconscious and put his body in a dumpster close to his house. His home is located close to Freeside North Entrance; travel to the gate and follow the road betwixt north and northeast in a direct line.

At that place are many ways to bargain with Carlyle St. Clair. You tin convince him to become to the Ultra-Luxe with a 65 Speech check; if you have the Black Widow perk you can advise to have sex activity with him in the dumpster; with 45 guns you can pistol-whip him; request him nearly himself will reveal he was black-labeled past his family and with a 45 Speech you lot can convince him that the White Glove Society tin can clean his proper noun; asking about a hurting he has in the neck will lead to a 7 Strength, 45 Medicine or 45 Unarmed check that volition knock him unconscious. If y'all don't have any of these skills, use a cattle prod that Mortimer provided to you (brand sure that your companions are away, if not they may accidentally kill him). Drag his body to the dumpster and place him inside. It should be noted that if y'all have the Carnivorous perk, devouring him will make yous neglect the quest.

Become back to Mortimer subsequently dealing with St. Clair, or your companion, and gain 500 XP and a huge boost of Strip and White Glove Society fame. This concludes the quest and the White Glove volition render to cannibalism after the 7PM banquet.

ALTERNATIVELY:

Y'all can steal or gain through dialogue a recipe from the head chef, Philippe, that will let you lot create a man flesh alternative to fool Mortimer and all the White Glove members (55 Barter cheque will go you his recipe, 55 Medicine check will go you his recipe and the key to the freezer where they're keeping Ted). This will outcome in Mortimer revealing himself at the banquet without the player having to kill anyone, not even the cook. This is possible if the player can pass a Barter, Medicine or Speech check to get the recipes and remove the cook without having to impale him. Create the dish, and wait until seven PM for the banquet to brainstorm. Utilize the intercom to phone call the caput waiter. When the waiter arrives y'all must either be disguised as a member of the White Glove Lodge or hidden out of sight, otherwise he will become hostile.

If y'all plan on freeing Ted and exposing Mortimer, talk to him only after the head waiter has left the room, preferably the surface area, because he will be hostile if Ted is following you. Apply the direct road to the feast hall, and sneak while you enter, because the White Glove members will be hostile to you. Await for Mortimer to finish his speech communication, walk up to him, stand up and rapidly talk to him, because otherwise your companions and Ted will assault the bouncer, causing the entire room to become hostile to you (if yous find you are unable to avoid this, open the console, click on Ted, and type in "tai" and press Enter. This volition disable his AI and prevent him from attacking. Do the same for any companions. Be sure to do information technology again to re-enable their AI once you accept dealt with Mortimer). Expose Mortimer's plan, and talk to Marjorie for your boost to White Glove Guild fame. Y'all also gain Strip fame if you persuade (35 Speech) Heck Gunderson non to stop selling brahmin meat to White Glove lodge.

Quest stages

Phase	Condition	Clarification
10		Enquire effectually the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson'south disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe virtually the investigator.
lxxx		Get Ted dorsum to his father if he is still alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson, who'due south beingness held in a room beneath the Gourmand.
105		Return Ted to his father at the Ultra-Luxe's Top Shelf Bar.
110		Secure an adequate replacement for Ted Gunderson as the White Glove Society's main course.
120		Talk to Carlyle St. Clair at his residence north of the Strip.
125		(Optional) Lock i of your man companions in the Ultra-Luxe kitchen freezer as replacement for Ted.
130		(Optional) Take the recipe-volume from the cook, non-violently (optional) and make a human-mankind culling and let Mortimer expose himself to the people, while they dine on a meat that's non human-flesh.
200		Return to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Kill Ted, and frame his father for the murder

If you desire to complete the quest Pheeble Will and receive a very nice reward from both Mortimer and Walter Phebus, killing Ted is advantageous.

Accept the quest from Walter only don't accept whatever of the Barter checks. Become back to the Ultra-Luxe and tell Mortimer that you want to aid him (yous may accept to lie to him). Mortimer will give you a key that lets you enter the kitchen basement. A White Glove Club baby-sit will ask what yous are doing, inform him that Mortimer wishes to get rid of the child. Open the freezer and talk to Ted. You have the option to talk a little or simply tell him that yous are finishing what the White Gloves started, which will cause him to turn hostile. After killing Ted, collect a bit of blood and some remains from the corpse to frame his male parent.

Note: This option is still bachelor if you prevarication about your intention when agreeing to help Mortimer, but proceed in mind that y'all mustn't agree to help Heck Gunderson find his son when request what he is doing in the Ultra-Luxe in the quest Pheeble Will or the option to help Mortimer frame Heck will not appear. Simply even then it is yet possible to go with this option by simply going about the quest to assist Mortimer and kill Ted anyway, as the quest will simply advance to the part of framing Heck as soon as Ted is expressionless.

With the false evidence in your inventory, become to the Ultra-Luxe Penthouse. The penthouse can be accessed from an elevator located in a room behind Mortimer's desk. Two bodyguards working for Gunderson, his hired hands patrol the suite and are hostile, just can exist killed without Karma penalization. Distribute the blood and remains of Ted in the bed and in the bathroom sink. Then go to the Strip and inform a securitron that a murder happened in the Ultra-Luxe. Afterwards making a surreal and mocking oral communication about the constabulary, the securitron will go along to arrest Heck Gunderson, who will resist and end up being killed.

Proceed to Mortimer for your reward of 500 XP, Strip and White Glove Society fame, and the result of the White Glove Club returning to cannibalism after the 7PM banquet.

After talking to Mortimer, go back to Walter for an additional advantage of 200 XP and 1,500 caps or 110 XP and 400 caps.

Extra info: This method will permit the Courier to complete the entire line of tasks in Render Unto Caesar.

Quest stages

Stage	Status	Clarification
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
20		Enquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe virtually the investigator.
80		Go Ted dorsum to his father if he is still alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson who'due south existence held in a room beneath the Gourmand.
150		Kill Ted Gunderson.
160		Collect samples of Ted's corpse for use in framing his father.
170		Distribute your samples around Heck Gunderson'southward bed and sink in his Ultra-Luxe penthouse suite.
180		Send a Securitron from the Strip to investigate Heck Gunderson's suite.
200		Render to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Following the Investigator

In that location is also a way to save Ted and prevent the White Glove Society from returning to cannibalism:

When y'all talk to Marjorie nigh the disappearance of Ted, she tells you that an investigator was looking for clues about a missing bride who had stayed at the hotel, then she directs yous to Mortimer. After inquiring Mortimer about the investigator, he gives you a key to the investigator'due south room. If you ask near the White Glove Society's reputation of cannibalism, you take the opportunity to lie with 62 Spoken communication or use the Carnivorous perk to tell him that you are also a cannibal. Mortimer will reveal his programme to you and request that y'all help him. If y'all agree to help without lying, you volition non be able to obtain the note Matchbook from the dead investigator or meet with Chauncey. If you lie near helping, Mortimer volition give you the Penthouse key, kitchen key, and freezer cardinal.

Become to the investigator's room, located in the Ultra-Luxe Hotel rooms. You lot will observe that the investigator is dead. Search his body for the matchbook note, which will tell you lot that he had a meeting with someone in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4PM. 2 White Glove Order members volition appear and set on with dress canes. After dealing with them, head to the steam room and wait until 4PM.

In the steam room, you will meet Chauncey, a member of the White Glove Guild who wants to stop Mortimer from returning to cannibalism. He tells you lot that a banquet at 7PM volition serve a meal fabricated with man flesh and that Mortimer is behind the disappearance of Ted Gunderson. Mortimer's plan is to make a voice communication telling the White Glove Society what they ate so they volition pass the taboo and render to cannibalism.

Chauncey doesn't know where Ted is, only he suspects that he is being held in the Members-Only section of the Ultra-Luxe. Chauncey warns you that if Ted is seen in the hotel, the other members will attack to protect their secret. He gives two suggestions for freeing Ted:

• You lot can spike the wine with a Med-X and 25 Medicine to create drugged wine, then escape with Ted while the members are comatose (if y'all demand a Med-X, you tin can try to find one in a get-go aid kit, although it is rare. There are iii kits in the basement: 1 in each of the two adjacent basement kitchens, and ane in the storage room next to the bathroom).
• Yous can cook upwards a fake meal that will trick Mortimer into exposing himself without corrupting the rest of the White Glove members. According to Chauncey, at the end of Mortimer'due south speech, you tin can enter the banquet hall with Ted alive and cause the Order to expel Mortimer.

Chauncey recommends the 2d approach, since the first would just be a temporary solution, and it would not prevent Mortimer from trying again in the future. Right after you say bye, an assassinator volition announced and kill Chauncey. Notation: Chauncey is scripted to die. Even if you kill the assassinator before a single shot is fired against Chauncey, he will still dice instantly as if he had been shot.

Later dealing with the assassin, proceed to the Gourmand. If your reputation on the Strip is "accepted" or amend, Marjorie will sponsor you lot as a fellow member and give you formal wear and a cardinal to the Members-But section. Behind the bar is a door to the kitchen that tin can be lockpicked, or utilise the central if it was provided by Mortimer before (or take the long fashion from the casino flooring to the Members-Only section and through the door behind the bar to the kitchen.)

In the upper level are ii White Glove members torching meat with flamers. In that location are 6 pieces of infected brahmin meat on the counters. Employ the elevator or head down the stairs to the basement. There is a White Glove Society member patrolling the hallway. If he sees you and asks what yous are doing in the basement, you can lie with 55 Speech and say that Mortimer wants to motion the child, or yous can choose a 35 Repair bank check to convince him that you lot are a plumber checking for leaks.

Go down the hall and look for the kitchen where the executive chef, Philippe, is located (at that place is a Recipes - Brahmin Wellington on the counter). To free Ted, you tin use either the freezer key or the final next to the freezer door (at a loss of Karma,) simply you must deal with Philippe showtime. There are several things that can be washed:

• You tin can pickpocket Philippe for the notation Philippe'southward recipes and the freezer fundamental.
• You can kill and loot him. This gains White Glove Society infamy unless it is a stealth kill. You likewise proceeds Karma since he is evil.
• You can antagonize Philippe through dialogue until you accept the opportunity for several skill checks. (Annotation: you can do multiple checks if you talk to him again afterwards.)
  • Speech bank check: With 55 Speech, you lot can tell him you lot saw a Radroach. He will run into the pantry, at which point you can use the terminal to close the door, trapping him inside. Nevertheless, yous need 75 Survival to make fake strange meat pie without a recipe, or create drugged wine with a Med-X and 25 Medicine.
  • Castling bank check: With 55 Castling, y'all can say you are major publisher looking for a cookbook. Then there are two options: pay him 100 caps for an advance on the book, or pass another 55 Voice communication check to tell him to give you his recipes. Withal, you withal need to find a way to go rid of him and a mode to get into the freezer (if you lot don't want to use the concluding).
  • Medicine check: With 55 Medicine, yous can tell him "harebrained psychobabble" until he has a breakdown. He gives you his recipes and freezer fundamental before fleeing.

If you wish to cook imitation strange meat pie and expose Mortimer, you volition demand Philippe's recipes and six Intelligence or 75 Survival to improvise ane.

If you wish to make drugged vino, y'all need a Med-X and 25 Medicine. (If you need a Med-X, you can endeavor to find one in a first help kit, although it is rare. At that place are three start aid kits in the basement: one in each of the 2 adjacent basement kitchens, and one in the storage room next to the bathroom.) In that location is a wine canteen you can examine on a shelf above the stove in Philippe's kitchen, and another vino bottle on a table in the vino cellar room (in the room adjacent to the other kitchen). You just need to drug one bottle, just it cannot be taken despite the red steal message. However, you can pickpocket the head waiter while he is conveying information technology; the members at the banquet notwithstanding end upward being drugged. (This makes it possible to proceed both the drugged wine and imitation strange meat pie in your inventory, if you lot also cook the fake food and "steal" it.)

After cooking the nutrient or drugging the wine, expect until 7PM (when the dinner guests go far,) then apply the intercom to telephone call the head waiter to come down and collect the wine/meal. If Marjorie did not sponsor you as a White Glove Social club fellow member earlier, disguise yourself in White Glove attire earlier the caput waiter arrives, or stay hidden so that he does not become hostile. (For whatsoever reason, sometimes the waiter stops in front of the kitchen door when told to choice up the wine; to set up this, just shut the door, and he'll retrieve the second bottle in the wine cellar.) Information technology'due south besides advisable to free Ted after the head waiter has left, since seeing Ted will turn the waiter hostile. When you open the door, Ted will exist very upset, demanding to know who did this to him. Y'all have three options: say at that place's no fourth dimension to explicate, tell him the truth, or prevarication and say you don't know who did it. In gild to proceeds White Glove Lodge fame when the quest ends, don't tell Ted (or his male parent) the truth, then choose "In that location's no time to explain" or lie to him.

Accept Ted follow you out of the kitchen and to the right, existence conscientious to make sure the waiter isn't even so walking dorsum. Follow the stairs up and go through the door to the White Glove individual dining expanse (if you're not a member you'll demand to use a cardinal from Marjorie or Mortimer, or pick the lock). If the waiter took the wine, everyone will be comatose. You tin loot the bodies, Mortimer being amid them. If the waiter took the simulated repast, hunker down and hide backside the bar until Mortimer finishes his oral communication. Note: Y'all must wait for him to finish his feast speech with the words "bon appetit" before you approach Mortimer. Doing then beforehand will cause the other White Gloves to become hostile to you.

As soon as Mortimer finishes, simply jump over the counter, run over to him and initiate dialogue. Exposing him will cause him to flee, but the other diners - the ones who might otherwise have attacked you - should remain neutral. If y'all are successfully able to attack Mortimer after exposing him but before he flees the room, the other diners may collectively mob Mortimer and assist you in killing him. Afterwards, talk to Marjorie to receive White Glove Society fame.

At this point you tin can either return Ted to his father, or you can carry out the revenge path of Pheeble Will as detailed in the section in a higher place.

To complete the quest peacefully, return with Ted to his father. If yous didn't lie to Ted in the freezer, he will tell his begetter what happened and Heck will want to impose a blockade of food on the Strip. Y'all have the choice to not let this happen with a 35 Speech check, which volition lead to Strip fame. If you are unable to laissez passer the bank check, you will gain infamy. If y'all lied to Ted in the freezer (or said at that place wasn't time to explain), his male parent asks who was backside the kidnapping. If you tell the truth, you accept to laissez passer the same 35 Speech cheque, simply this time y'all will just gain Strip fame. If you lie to him, you lot will proceeds both Strip fame and White Glove Society fame.

You also get 500 XP and 500 caps for completing the quest.

Quest stages

Stage	Status	Clarification
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for data regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
30		Get into the investigator's room at the Ultra-Luxe.
35		Search the Investigator for clues.
40		Come across with the investigator's contact in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4pm.
fifty		Discover a mode to gain admission to the Members-Only section of the Gourmand.
sixty		(Optional) Find a sponsor to help y'all join the White Glove Society.
lxx		(Optional) Alarm Heck Gunderson to his son's situation.
75		(Optional) Go rid of Philippe and melt for the banquet using his recipe for human mankind.
76		(Optional) Drug the wine at the White Glove Order banquet.
78		(Optional) Use the intercom to telephone call in the head waiter.
79		(Optional) Bring Ted to the Members Just department to expose Mortimer at the stop of his feast speech.
80		Become Ted dorsum to his male parent if he is all the same alive.
90		Talk to Heck Gunderson.

The Bloodthirsty Courier

You also take the unmarked option to apply Wasteland manners in the pedant face up of the White Glove Order, if you don't heed the possibility of being vilified past them.

Follow the quest every bit detailed in the "Following the Investigator" section in a higher place, but after discovering from Chauncey the plans regarding Ted, the Courier has the unmarked selection to tell Heck Gunderson what'due south happening.

Subsequently you have given Heck the news, he offers a different solution: simply shoot everyone in your way and return Ted to him. He provides you with a sawed-off shotgun and some shells.

Note that if you exercise this, yous can kill all of the White Gloves in the casino with no Karma loss and never have your weapons taken again. You can even go into the cashier's office and clean it out to get your possessions back, suffering only minor Karma loss for opening/stealing things. So you will have all your weapons and can keep the quest uninterrupted, although y'all may want to disguise as a White Glove to prevent unwanted attacks. Just be certain not to kill Marjorie or Mortimer or the quest will fail. Even afterward all the killing, once you lot complete the quest you may nevertheless go from hated to idolized past the White Gloves.

Once you return Ted to his father the quest is completed, and you gain 500 XP and 500 caps from Heck.

Notes

• It is possible to skip almost all of this quest and yet receive the XP points and reward from Heck. After speaking with Heck for the showtime time and agreeing to assist find his son, but sneak into the Gourmand kitchen via the locked door behind the bar. It is possible to practice this undetected. Once within, sneak past the ii White Gloves roasting the brahmin meat and head downwards the stairs. There is another White Glove on patrol in this hallway. If he detects you he will face up you and you tin can pass a Spoken language check to convince him that Mortimer told yous to move the boy or tell him yous're there to fix some leaky pipes. If y'all pass one of these Speech checks he will let you go on. Any of the doors on the left side of the hallway will atomic number 82 you to where Phillipe is continuing. He volition be facing the wall and it is possible to sneak by him undetected. Behind him is the door to the freezer room. Hack the terminal (accessing the final volition cause you to lose Karma) to gain admission to the freezer. This is where Ted is being held. Talk to Ted and he will follow yous out. It is possible to sneak past Phillipe over again. If you lot are detected by Phillipe after freeing Ted he volition become hostile, along with all the other White Gloves in the kitchen area. The White Glove in the hallway will not confront you fifty-fifty if he sees Ted with you lot. Sneak back upstairs and out of the kitchen. Once you lot're out of the kitchen find Heck speak with him. You will have all the dialogue options as you would unremarkably.
• The decision to assist the White Glove Society or non does not have any repercussions in the game or in the quest Render Unto Caesar other than giving some Legion reputation and a lot of bad Karma to the player. This is the only quest in New Vegas that doesn't acquit whatsoever repercussions between factions, towns, locations or non-player characters. This is too 1 of the few quests that allows you to subvert the entire progression and kill almost everyone in it without damaging your reputation or Karma.
• The player can both expose Mortimer and kill Heck and Ted without framing Heck. To do this, expose Mortimer as detailed in the above walkthrough, then kill Ted in an abased area of the casino so you are non seen. Report to Heck that Ted is dead and tell him the White Glove Guild kidnapped him, which leads into the aforementioned 35 Speech check to not finish supplying the Strip meat as though the player brought Ted back alive. Heck will remain at the bar after dialogue ends, simply draw your weapon and kill him, then put your weapon away and the White Glove Club members and other patrons should go back to friendly. You tin can then report to Walter to conclude Pheeble Will. This path earns you the title "Expert-Natured Rascal", equally you will exist idolized by the White Glove Society but are guilty of breaking their rules by carrying a weapon and attacking Heck in their view. Or, kill him stealthily, eastward.thou. with the silenced .22 pistol, which is a holdout weapon. Hiding in the casino behind a table is quite doable, yous may accept to fire two or three times to kill him earlier he turns effectually.
• If yous chose to drug the wine, later the head waiter picks upwardly the drugged wine, you can pickpocket it off him with no change in the electric current objective (the White Glove Order members will still become comatose).
  • Also, when you enter the White Glove Gild gathering you lot have the option to talk to the members. Attempting to talk to them actually opens up their extended inventory (the clothes they are currently wearing will be listed), which you lot tin can loot without loss of Karma or reputation. Even afterwards finishing the quest, the members volition not supervene upon their clothing or masks, and they will walk effectually in their underwear. As well if you lot wake them up when they are drugged past striking ane and then putting your fists abroad they all volition walk effectually the room and you tin still pick their pockets as if they were unconscious and the actor volition not be able to talk to them until they leave.
• If all the securitrons on The Strip were killed previously, it can be difficult to finish this quest via framing Gunderson as the quest markers will simply point to empty spaces and the securitrons can take a very long time to respawn. This can exist detrimental when playing on Hardcore as you will most likely have to expect for over a week, during which fourth dimension you will have to go along sleep, dehydration and hunger levels downwardly. On the PC version accessing the console, targeting a dead securitron and entering the command "resurrect" volition restore the securitron to life and allow you to complete the quest.
• If you are working for Mr. Business firm after the quest is completed you have the option to tell him that the White Gloves are at present cannibals, he will then tell you to deal with them in whatsoever way you lot run into fit equally this is a alienation of their contract.
• If you choose to frame Heck Gunderson, the securitron that comes to deal with him will be a securitron MK I, regardless of whether or not the Courier upgraded Mr. Firm's securitrons to MK II.
• If you desire to complete both the Pheeble Will and Beyond The Beefiness quests with the most experience, the all-time pick is to, if yous have the appropriate Barter skill level, get Phebus to agree to pay 400 caps for your help first. And so, go talk to Heck Gunderson and find out his son Ted is missing. Subsequently that, speak with Phebus again and tell him what you lot've found out; he'll pay you and the adjacent set of dialogue options will appear. Only choose 'Goodbye', and and so talk to his wife. Tell her you'll try to talk Phebus out of it, and and so practise so by whatever methods are at your disposal. He and his wife will leave without y'all having to kill Ted or Heck. This will requite you 413 XP, but only 400 caps. It besides requires Voice communication 75. This way you can bring Ted dorsum to his father Heck and receive 589 XP, as well as 500 caps. Y'all do nonetheless need Speech 35 to ensure you get the Strip and White Glove Club fame. Also killing Mortimer later you show him up will give you 55 XP. But if you complete this quest peacefully start will neglect the Pheeble Will quest. If you already took Ted to Heck, end the former quest earlier talking to Heck.
• If you bring Ted back to Heck and so impale Heck, the White Glove Society will shun y'all, only Heck'southward hired gun will help you fight them.
• Picking the lock to the door that leads to the cashier's booth will result in negative Karma, and upon budgeted the cashier, he volition become hostile. Withal, if you simply selection the lock so shut the door, there will be no resulting hostility.
• The merely style to receive Strip fame is currently to dissuade Heck Gunderson from imposing a food blockade, which is possible ONLY if you return Ted to his father, thus failing Pheeble Will. Helping Mortimer promotes y'all to Idolized with the White Gloves, but has no result on your Strip reputation. (You lot can also just impale Ted and lie to Heck that you only establish him and don't know who did it, that volition also requite you Strip fame, as well equally White Glove fame).
• As of version ane.4, neither Mortimer nor Marjorie take lines near cannibalism or Ted Gunderson until you offer to Heck to detect his son (at to the lowest degree if you aren't a Cannibal and simply have high Speech communication). And, opposite to what the walkthrough keeps reiterating, this will actually enable you to ask Mortimer for a job. Having Pheeble Will started or non does not seem to be of relevance. Put another style, this quest is now given only by Heck Gunderson.

Behind the scenes

• Across the Beef was designed by Eric Fenstermaker.
• Across the Beef took a very long fourth dimension to finish during development, equally information technology took many milestones to complete. It was never nether consideration to be cut from the game, despite its bugs, because of the quality of the quest - instead, the internal discussions were more along the lines of emphasizing the demand to wrap upward development of the quest so the team could focus efforts elsewhere.^{[Non-canon 1]}
• If the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, and so after framing Heck Gunderson, the securitron sent to arrest him will say the line "Dead or alive, y'all're coming with me" just before shooting him. This is a quote from the movie RoboCop (1987). The phonation and inflection sound similar to that of Robocop equally well.
• Besides if the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, the deceased investigator will be named "Crusoe." This is in reference to Robinson Crusoe, the protagonist of the classic novel of same proper noun. In the novel, Crusoe is marooned on an island where he encounters cannibals.
• The name of this quest is another play of words that near likely refers to the song Beyond the Reef, written by J. Pitman in 1948 and fabricated popular in 1950 by Bing Crosby. The song was covered past Elvis Presley and The Ventures, along with many other artists.

Bugs

• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If yous choose to cook the imitation meat pie so take it, when you telephone call the caput waiter over he volition stand up in front of the oven and volition not motion. ^[verified]
  • On the Xbox 360, if y'all put it back then look 24 hours, he will take taken it. Brand certain it is all the same around seven PM when you lot leave the kitchen or you will encounter the problems mentioned below where Mortimer doesn't make his oral communication.
• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 Ted Gunderson may become stuck in combat manner, and will not follow you through surface area transitions. To correct, wait one hour or fast travel to The Strip North Gate, Ted should appear shortly. When re-entering the Strip, exist cautious as Ted does not accept a passport and will exist shot by security if yous do non arrive to the gate fast plenty. Taking the monorail from Campsite McCarran will also work. Alternatively, if you do non want to chance Ted dying, you can slowly and advisedly walk into him, pushing him towards Heck. This is assuming y'all do non have to travel through whatever doors. You can likewise use the 'resurrect' control on him from the console if you're playing the PC version, and it will reset him. Waiting two to three hours on the PlayStation iii and Xbox 360 also works. Also, if you accept a full party, dismissing your humanoid companion on the spot, causes him to act normally (Tested on PC). ^[verified]
• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If you fix the repast, call the waiter, and then go upwards to the private dining room without Ted, Mortimer may never brainstorm his voice communication. If you try to return later with Ted, the room will get hostile toward you. ^[verified]
• Xbox 360 If you lot are working with the Legion, and leave Boone in the freezer as a substitute meal, make sure yous kill him before locking him in. "Back" him upward into the freezer, kill him, return the Gunderson kid to his father, and and so tell Mortimer. If you exercise non impale Boone first, fifty-fifty if you hire another companion after he'due south been eaten, when you go to the Legion campsite, you will be perceived equally hostile and attacked on sight. ^[verified]

Gallery

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References

Non-canon

1. ↑ Fallout: New Vegas 10th Anniversary Charity Stream (reference starts at ii:23:xv)
   Joshua Sawyer: "'Did I mean to cutting Across the Beef?' No, Beyond the Beefiness... there were quests that we cut for complication or, like, they got out of control actually chop-chop. But Beyond the Beef... even though information technology'southward buggy, is a very good quest. No... Across the Beef did accept multiple milestones to finish, which was frustrating, considering there was a lot of content to make. Only it was a very good quest, then we never talked nigh cutting it, just there was always like 'nosotros gotta wrap up Beyond the Beefiness then nosotros can practice other quests in the game.' That was more of the discussion."

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